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Doug is first.
Alan responds.
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From: Doug Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2003 13:54
To: Alan Oxley
Subject: First response
Dear Alan,
I am afraid that the same old rhetoric on the benefits
of free trade will not be sufficient to answer the increasing critical analysis being undertaken by unions, civil society, independent academics, and now the government's own Productivity Commission.
Despite your best attempts to justify a free trade
agreement with the United States the evidence is mounting
that it is not in Australia's interest.
My contention that the USFTA will not advance the
social and economic position of the majority of working
Australians is receiving widespread independent support.
Despite your unsubstantiated claims that the USFTA
will protect and increase jobs for Australian workers,
the Productivity Commission, after extensive analysis,
contradicts your fundamental thesis.
Productivity Commission research, reported in the
Australian Financial
Review (26 May 2003) finds that:
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- Most preferential trade deals negotiated over the
past four decades have depressed rather than expanded
trade.
- Preferential trade deals divert more trade from
non-member countries than they create between countries
signing the agreement.
- 12 out of 18 bilateral free trade agreements had
reduced the value of exports even after allowing for
the impact of other factors that influence trade flows.
- Agreements that reduced trade included some of
the most liberalising, including, NAFTA, the European
Union, the Australia-New Zealand Closer Economic Relations
Agreement, and the Mercosur agreement between Argentina,
Brazil, Uruguay and Paraguay.
- Some of the more prominent Preferential Trading
Agreements have not even succeeded in creating more
trade among members.
When you've got the Productivity Commission and the
AMWU against you, you're in trouble!
You claim that the USFTA will not undermine Australia's
culture. However in the APEC Study of August 2001, partly
authored by you, it is claimed that one of the benefits
of the USFTA is the influence of US management on Australian
management. Your report observes favourably that US
firms "were less likely to recognise unions".
I don't believe that Australian management culture
needs to be driven any further towards the "greed
is good" culture of many US firms. Are you seriously
advocating that Australian business should more closely
resemble the deceit, corruption and lack of corporate
governance epitomised by Enron and WorldCom?
Your claim that we nearly lost our automobile and
steel industries in the '80s because we sheltered them
from world markets is again, a simplistic assertion
based on your increasingly isolated view of the benefits
of free trade.
The capacity for government to intervene in these
industries, to assist them to modernise, introduce new
technology and management systems was a key factor in
their survival. This was achieved with the full support
and involvement of the Australian trade union movement.
Under a proposed USFTA, government capacity to intervene
in the interests of Australian communities will be significantly
limited.
Contrary to your claims that we are now a successful
exporter of manufactured goods, DFAT data for the calendar
year 2002 shows Australia's Elaborately Transformed
Manufacturing trade deficit has blown out to $70 billion.
ETM's are recognised as providing more added value to
an economy and are a significant user of information
technology and research and development. The USFTA will
simply drive us towards an increased reliance on agriculture
and mining and a bigger ETM deficit.
I don't want more Australian workers looking for
"adjustment packages", I want them in high-skilled,
well-paid manufacturing jobs.
Doug
From: Alan Oxley
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 23:22
To: Doug Cameron
Subject: Re: First response
Doug,
The gains for Australia from an FTA are too great
to be dismissed with slogans and selective quotes. You
say the US National Association of Manufacturers expects
an FTA to expand exports to Australia by US $1.8 billion.
True. Our manufacturers also expect to increase exports
by hundreds of millions of dollars. That is the whole
point of an FTA. Trade for both sides expands. It is
win-win. And the smaller economy usually wins more.
New Zealand did better from the FTA negotiated with
Australia 20 years ago.
You say Australian manufacturing will be up against
it. Surely you have noticed over the past 15 years that
manufacturing has been Australia's best-performing export
sector; better than mining and farming. It doesn't matter
if we import more manufactures than we export. Economically,
it's the overall balance of total trade and investment
that matters and that's in good shape. Our manufacturers
have proved they can compete and win in the US market.
They had a go and succeeded. Recognize their world-class
performance.
You pick and choose among Australian free-rade economists
as they suit your case. Normally you wouldn't have lunch
with them. Of the study by the free trade CIE group
in Canberra, which estimates an FTA will add $4 billion
a year to the Australian economy (and that is an underestimate
- econometric modelling always underestimates real results:
Australian business expects an FTA will deliver at least
double that), you say simply that won't be achieved.
Your evidence? Another free trader, Professor Ross
Garnaut from ANU. Ross opposes the FTA because he prefers
multilateral trade liberalisation, something I haven't
seen you endorse. And you endorse a similar critique
from ACIL, another free trade group. They will be tickled.
I don't recall your approving their work when they were
advising the Howard Government on how to bust the MUA.
And now you quote approvingly a report from the Productivity
Commission, the great nemesis of Australian protectionists.
It shows that several free-trade agreements divert trade.
This is based on long-established economic theory. It
can happen if trade barriers are high. But read all
of the report. You will see it does not assess the case
of an FTA with the US, it is a warning to do it properly.
There is no problem. Trade barriers between Australia
and the US overall are low.
But this is not the main game. Today is 1780 in economic
time. That was when Britain industrialised. The rest
of the world ultimately followed. Those who were slow
to industrialise remained poor. Today, the US is leading
us into the Information Age. You know how quickly technology
is changing everything, including the work place. Adapt
or drop behind.
Fortunately, Australians like IT. We are adapting.
If we want to succeed in the Information Age, we need
to keep pace with the cutting edge of change. Then we
will create new businesses and new jobs. The cutting
edge of IT is the US. These are the reference points
an FTA will give our companies. So set up, they will
compete in any market in the world. Whose standards
would you use?
You can sneer that this is acquiring Enron and Worldcom
values. We don't have to look over the fence for that. We
have HIH, we had Skase, we had Bond. And we always will
and so will they. Was the whole US labor movement criminal
like Jimmy Hoffa?
Ask your children and their friends where we should look
to keep up to date with IT. They know where the future
lies and it doesn't frighten them. They also know we
don't have to become American to take the best from
America.
Alan
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