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Day 1
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Doug goes first. Alan
responds.
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From: Doug Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 13:22
To: Alan Oxley
Subject: Accountable negotiations
Dear Alan,
It seems to me that your position is a weakening
as each day passes! We now have Alan Wood, Economics
editor of The
Australian making the following observation
on the proposed USFTA:
The one crucial test is whether it will enhance
or damage what Vaile himself calls a very fragile global,
regional and domestic political consensus for free markets
and liberalised trade. An effective way of deciding
that would be to offer the final agreement, if there
is one, to the Productivity Commission or perhaps the
World Trade Organisation, for independent assessment.
The reason there is a fragile consensus on free markets
and liberalised trade is the secrecy, vested interests
and predominance of corporate rights over social and
community rights under the current free-trade regime.
I welcome the concept of an independent assessment
of the proposed USFTA; however in the AMWU submission
to DFAT we argue that the final assessment should be
that of the Australian Parliament.
We also argue for a process of accountability, openness
and transparency prior to and during the negotiating
process. It is my view that the secrecy and exclusion
of union and other civil society representatives on
issues such as the USFTA is undemocratic and unacceptable.
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The AMWU has proposed a three-stage approach backed
by legislation.
Stage One
Both Houses of Parliament should determine whether
to grant negotiating authority for a trade treaty.
Stage Two
Studies should be undertaken to determine the costs
and benefits of any proposal that may be negotiated
including:
- The effects nationally and at State/Regional level;
- The effects to be measured through social and economic
audits, including the impact on various regions and
industry sub sectors;
- Such studies must draw on a wide range of expertise
and not just the neo-Liberal supporters of free trade;
- Such studies must assess the impact on the capacity
of Australia to make future interventions for the benefit
of society, the economy and the national independence.
Stage Three
Ratification of any treaty should be on an "accept
or reject" basis.
A Parliamentary Trade Agreement Committee should
be established with the responsibility to commission
multi-disciplinary research from a wide range of sources
on the consequences of various trade-treaty options.
The Committee must produce an agreed objectives statement
at the commencement of any negotiations.
This approach would go some way to lifting the veil
of secrecy surrounding trade negotiations.
Negotiations are taking place currently in Hawaii
and the Australian public is being kept in the dark
as to the issues, problems or progress in negotiations.
I put this proposal forward as a constructive proposition.
The AMWU is not opposed to international trade but
we are opposed to the current structures, which excluded
civil society and leave negotiations to the elite and
those with vested interests.
Alan, you are wrong when you argue it is the overall
balance of total trade and investment that matters and
Australia is in good shape.
Between 1985 and 1995 ETM exports increased by 17
per cent per annum. This was a period when tariff cuts
had just started and Australia had an interventionist
industry policy.
Over the past seven years (1995 - 2002) ETM exports
have collapsed, growing by only 6 per cent.
The ETM trade deficit has blown out from $42 billion
to $70 billion and is the main factor explaining our
burgeoning Current Account deficit.
Foreign direct investment in manufacturing has collapsed
and unprocessed commodity exports have grown more than
twice the rate of our ETM exports.
Sorry Alan, your dogma doesn't stand up to the facts.
I suppose, given your "vision" on I.T. at
least we will have the latest technology to count the
sheep!
Doug
From: Alan Oxley
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2003 17:30
To: Doug Cameron
Subject: Benefits to developing economies
Doug,
I am glad you have reverted to the question of the
global benefit of free trade and open markets. You express
the classic view of the anti-globalisation movement: "Social and community rights" are more important
than growth based on market economies, and free trade.
You assert that opposition to an FTA from civil society
is growing in Australia. As far as I can see, those
who oppose free trade are those who have opposed the
FTA. It's yourself, Sharan Burrows, Malcolm Fraser,
the Socialist Workers Party, Oxfam, Pat Ranald's small
network of community groups, and the Greens of course.
You were all there on day one and are still there.
You all had a chance to show how much public support
you had when the WTO Ministerial meeting was held in
Sydney last October. The rally in Hyde Park mustered
about 500 - at least half were there to protest refugee
policy. The media for the week was dominated with discussion
about free-trade issues, and clearly the public were
unconvinced by the case against. There is a very good reason
why this should be: that case is heartless and selfish.
The civil society groups you refer to have the arrogance
to claim they represent the interests of the world's
poor. They do not.
Bahrun Mitra, the Head of the NGO Liberty Institute in New Delhi came to Sydney for the
meeting and observed that none of the groups he saw
on the streets in Sydney were known or active in India.
Like you, they argue that poor countries must not have
free trade, that the WTO must be changed so trade can
be used as an instrument to force their social standards
on developing countries.
You call it "Fair" trade. That is classic
double speak. It was coined by US unions to block imports
from poor countries, particularly garments, on the grounds
it was not "fair" that garment workers in
India or Bangladesh were not paid the same as US garment
workers.
I was at the Doha WTO meeting late in 2001. As it
wrapped up, Greenpeace, Oxfam, etc were telling the
media the world's poor had been sold out, while the
governments of the world's poor were inside celebrating
the beginning of a negotiation to reduce global trade
barriers.
This free-trade agreement will advance the case for
giving countries the chance to lift themselves out of
poverty. Growth is stalled in much of Asia and Latin
America. The former communist countries in Eastern Europe
and Central Asia, lead by Russia, all want to use free
trade to lift standards of living. It is why they are
queueing to join the WTO.
Prospects are bleak for the
WTO negotiations because Jacques Chirac refuses to allow
the EU to consider opening Europe's markets for agriculture.
A free-trade agreement between Australia and the US
that demonstrates how countries can work together to
remove impediments to economic activity will serve to
show others what can be done.
You make a deal of the question of scrutiny and transparency. Of course any agreement must be seen and judged for what it does. Those who complain that it is being done in secret are exaggerating the point. My experience
with government is never to wait for them to get around
to telling you. Go and find out yourself. We do. It
works.
But tell me, Doug: When the agreement is finished
and it offers the prospects of more jobs and security
for Australian workers in the long run, are you going
to tell them they are not entitled to that because self-appointed civil society groups don’t like free-market economies?
Alan
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